Gisin & Gisin Model

Post a reply


This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.
Smilies
:D :) ;) :( :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :geek: :ugeek:
BBCode is ON
[img] is ON
[flash] is OFF
[url] is ON
Smilies are ON
Topic review
   

Expand view Topic review: Gisin & Gisin Model

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by Joy Christian » Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:57 am

gill1109 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm
By the way, my RSOS paper is now accepted and in production.
Yeah, right. I will believe it when I see it on the RSOS website. The paper was submitted 16 months ago, in October 2020, but it is still "in production." :)
.

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by FrediFizzx » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:21 pm

gill1109 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:21 pm
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm Yep, it uses the detection loophole, and avoids a number of drawbacks of the Pearl model.

https://rpubs.com/gill1109/Gisin2opt
It doesn't work with random angles so it is not even a model. It's just more junk.
.
You mean you don’t understand it, and therefore you call it junk.

It does work with random angles. Alice and Bob can use any angles as settings they like. Also random angles.
Image

Let's see your R code and graph for random angles.
.

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by gill1109 » Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:21 pm

FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm Yep, it uses the detection loophole, and avoids a number of drawbacks of the Pearl model.

https://rpubs.com/gill1109/Gisin2opt
It doesn't work with random angles so it is not even a model. It's just more junk.
.
You mean you don’t understand it, and therefore you call it junk.

It does work with random angles. Alice and Bob can use any angles as settings they like. Also random angles.

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by FrediFizzx » Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 am

gill1109 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm Yep, it uses the detection loophole, and avoids a number of drawbacks of the Pearl model.

https://rpubs.com/gill1109/Gisin2opt
It doesn't work with random angles so it is not even a model. It's just more junk.
.

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by gill1109 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm

Yep, it uses the detection loophole, and avoids a number of drawbacks of the Pearl model.

https://rpubs.com/gill1109/Gisin2opt

By the way, my RSOS paper is now accepted and in production. It was held up by one referee. He believes that Bell's theorem is both true and not true and that this is the case because the ZFC axioms of mathematics are inconsistent.

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by FrediFizzx » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:18 am

Oops! This simulation is no good. It doesn't work with random angles.

Image
.

Re: Gisin & Gisin Model

by FrediFizzx » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:27 pm

FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:04 pm I was browsing though some old posts on the old forum and came across this Gisin & Gisin model that John Reed did a simulation for about 7 or 8 years ago. Well, I fixed it up a bit and it actually works fairly well. 10,000 trials at 1 degree resolution. I think it uses the detection loophole but can't quite figure it out.

Image

Cloud File.

https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/fredif ... inReed3.nb

Direct Files.

sims/GisinReed3.pdf
sims/GisinReed3.nb

You can see on the third page of the PDF that the A and B outcomes look to be the same. Can't quite figure out how that could be either. ???
Actually A and B should be opposite of each other because,



There should be a minus sign like above on either one because lambda is the singlet vector and should be opposite signed on either side.
.

Gisin & Gisin Model

by FrediFizzx » Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:04 pm

I was browsing though some old posts on the old forum and came across this Gisin & Gisin model that John Reed did a simulation for about 7 or 8 years ago. Well, I fixed it up a bit and it actually works fairly well. 10,000 trials at 1 degree resolution. I think it uses the detection loophole but can't quite figure it out.

Image

Cloud File.

https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/fredif ... inReed3.nb

Direct Files.

sims/GisinReed3.pdf
sims/GisinReed3.nb

You can see on the third page of the PDF that the A and B outcomes look to be the same. Can't quite figure out how that could be either. ???

Anyways, Enjoy!

Top