by ben6993 » Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:35 am
I posted to let you know that I saw a connection between my retrocausal papers and the one-page model. I did not set out consciously to make my method have such a connection and only saw the connection afterwards. I thought, though, that someone here might be interested in that link.
I am sorry that I am being pointed at a new, long and complicated paper as I do not have the expertise or energy to cope with an ever-moving and complex target. Nevertheless, I have looked at the new arxiv pre-print. Unfortunately, I am not up-to-date with models later than the one-page paper, though I have looked at some of them. I believe it is true that the newer models are meant to be improvements to rather than the discarding of the older models, but no model has been retracted by Joy.
First, page 18 has a typo: even-by-event should be event-by-event.
I like the question and answer section at the end.
The top left of page 14 notes "... if the Mobius-like twists in S3 ...".
That tells me that the S^3 space has trivector issues impicitly even if it could be written as though the trivectors are not playing an explicit role.
Mid right of page 3:
"If, initially (i.e., before the detection process defined by the measurement functions to be specified below), the two unit vectors a and si1 happen to be pointing through the same hemisphere of S2 ֒→ IR3 centered at the origin of si1, then µ1 = sign(a·si1) will be equal to +1,
and if the two unit vectors a and si1 happen to be pointing through the opposing hemispheres of S2
centered at the origin of si1, then µ1 = sign(a · si1) will be equal to −1, provided that a·si1 = 0."
and also the footnote 4 on page 6 seems to define a hidden variable in terms of different orientations which retain the property of 'no cowlicks'. I also note a thread on this website discussing whether there is a hidden variable or not.
It seems to me that trivectors are still important. I agree that it is useful to have hidden variables. I see nothing here to change my opinion of my suggested link.
Austin Fearnley
I posted to let you know that I saw a connection between my retrocausal papers and the one-page model. I did not set out consciously to make my method have such a connection and only saw the connection afterwards. I thought, though, that someone here might be interested in that link.
I am sorry that I am being pointed at a new, long and complicated paper as I do not have the expertise or energy to cope with an ever-moving and complex target. Nevertheless, I have looked at the new arxiv pre-print. Unfortunately, I am not up-to-date with models later than the one-page paper, though I have looked at some of them. I believe it is true that the newer models are meant to be improvements to rather than the discarding of the older models, but no model has been retracted by Joy.
First, page 18 has a typo: even-by-event should be event-by-event.
I like the question and answer section at the end.
The top left of page 14 notes "... if the Mobius-like twists in S3 ...".
That tells me that the S^3 space has trivector issues impicitly even if it could be written as though the trivectors are not playing an explicit role.
Mid right of page 3:
"If, initially (i.e., before the detection process defined by the measurement functions to be specified below), the two unit vectors a and si1 happen to be pointing through the same hemisphere of S2 ֒→ IR3 centered at the origin of si1, then µ1 = sign(a·si1) will be equal to +1,
and if the two unit vectors a and si1 happen to be pointing through the opposing hemispheres of S2
centered at the origin of si1, then µ1 = sign(a · si1) will be equal to −1, provided that a·si1 = 0."
and also the footnote 4 on page 6 seems to define a hidden variable in terms of different orientations which retain the property of 'no cowlicks'. I also note a thread on this website discussing whether there is a hidden variable or not.
It seems to me that trivectors are still important. I agree that it is useful to have hidden variables. I see nothing here to change my opinion of my suggested link.
Austin Fearnley
