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Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm
by FrediFizzx
Seems like they are because then they wouldn't be Bell Fanatics anymore. Except for Gill but he just slaughters you with lots of nonsense. :mrgreen:
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:05 pm
by Joy Christian
FrediFizzx wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm Seems like they are because then they wouldn't be Bell Fanatics anymore. Except for Gill but he just slaughters you with lots of nonsense. :mrgreen:
Gill is a coward too. You will not see him trying to attack the works of powerful Bell-skeptics such as Gerard 't Hooft or Sabine Hossenfelder, or trying to have their published papers retracted by sending petty complaints to journal editors, or trying to bombard their academic superiors with malicious letters, like a disgruntled old granny. Bullies never have the guts to take on those who are more powerful than them. Gill did try to take on Sabine Hossenfelder once, but she quickly unfriended him on Facebook after he flooded one of her posts about superdeterminism with a huge amount of meaningless nonsense.
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:14 pm
by FrediFizzx
Joy Christian wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:05 pm
FrediFizzx wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm Seems like they are because then they wouldn't be Bell Fanatics anymore. Except for Gill but he just slaughters you with lots of nonsense. :mrgreen:
Gill is a coward too. You will not see him trying to attack the works of powerful Bell-skeptics such as Gerard 't Hooft or Sabine Hossenfelder, or trying to have their published papers retracted by sending petty complaints to journal editors, or trying to bombard their academic superiors with malicious letters, like a disgruntled old granny. Bullies never have the guts to take on those who are more powerful than them. Gill did try to take on Sabine Hossenfelder once, but she quickly unfriended him on Facebook after he flooded one of her posts about superdeterminism with a huge amount of meaningless nonsense.
Sure, but I meant for this forum.
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:52 am
by FrediFizzx
I expected Schmelzer to put up more of a debate but I guess he must have figured out by now that Bell was wrong.
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:39 am
by FrediFizzx
Looks like a lot of them went over to,

https://groups.google.com/g/bell_quantum_foundations

The private forum.

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:45 am
by FrediFizzx
I just posted a message over there.

11:43 AM (1 minute ago)
to Bell inequalities and quantum foundations
We dare you to come over to our new public forum to try to make Bell's case. You can post as a guest if you don't wish to sign up. Thanks.

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The non-Bell fans are welcome also.

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:26 am
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:45 am I just posted a message over there.

11:43 AM (1 minute ago)
to Bell inequalities and quantum foundations
We dare you to come over to our new public forum to try to make Bell's case. You can post as a guest if you don't wish to sign up. Thanks.

index.php

The non-Bell fans are welcome also.
The very short answer to your question (“Are the Bell fanatics cowards?”) is: no.

But of course, it’s a loaded question. Like the famous question “when did you stop beating your wife?” You cannot answer “yes” or “no” to that question. You have to question the questioner’s presuppositions.

I fear that people won’t come to this new forum because they will suspect that it will be a waste of their time. The “moderation” in the previous forum was too aggressive. There used to be no room for real discussion, real exchange of ideas… the managers seemed to have made up their own minds. And used to regularly break their own rules.

Maybe the new style forum will also have new policies. We’ll see. I hope so! :D

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:53 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:26 am
FrediFizzx wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:45 am I just posted a message over there.

11:43 AM (1 minute ago)
to Bell inequalities and quantum foundations
We dare you to come over to our new public forum to try to make Bell's case. You can post as a guest if you don't wish to sign up. Thanks.

index.php

The non-Bell fans are welcome also.
The very short answer to your question (“Are the Bell fanatics cowards?”) is: no ...
You are the only Bell Fanatic that is not a coward. Probably because of your really weird obsession with Joy. We've beat you up so bad, you shouldn't be comin' round here any more. Well, it not going to stop since this is a "Bell was wrong" forum. Bell Fanatics are going to be put to shame here.
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:59 am
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:53 am
gill1109 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:26 am
FrediFizzx wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:45 am I just posted a message over there.

11:43 AM (1 minute ago)
to Bell inequalities and quantum foundations
We dare you to come over to our new public forum to try to make Bell's case. You can post as a guest if you don't wish to sign up. Thanks.

index.php

The non-Bell fans are welcome also.
The very short answer to your question (“Are the Bell fanatics cowards?”) is: no ...
You are the only Bell Fanatic that is not a coward. Probably because of your really weird obsession with Joy. We've beat you up so bad, you shouldn't be comin' round here any more. Well, it not going to stop since this is a "Bell was wrong" forum. Bell Fanatics are going to be put to shame here.
Thanks for the compliment! Keep on doing your best!

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:29 am
by FrediFizzx
@gill1109 You're welcome. I think it is 4 down 1 to go. Let's see... Heine down, jreed down, Mikko down, Schmelzer down and there are probably some more. Plus no one that I invited from the Google group came by even as a guest. So, yep a bunch of cowards afraid to face the music of Bell's dead junk physics theory. :D
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:17 pm
by gill1109
Meanwhile, I have been asked to referee Joy’s “Reply” to my “Comment” on his IEEE Access quaternions paper. I submitted my review yesterday.

Still waiting for RSOS.

Looking forward to new papers by Joy on Bell’s so-called theorem.

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:52 am
by FrediFizzx
@gill1109 LOL! Is this off-topic? Well maybe it's not since you are the only non-coward Bell Fanatic. New paper is coming soon. It is so awesome I can hardly contain myself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:13 pm
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:52 am @gill1109 LOL! Is this off-topic? Well maybe it's not since you are the only non-coward Bell Fanatic. New paper is coming soon. It is so awesome I can hardly contain myself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I’m looking forward to it!

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:15 am
by jreed
gill1109 wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:13 pm
FrediFizzx wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:52 am @gill1109 LOL! Is this off-topic? Well maybe it's not since you are the only non-coward Bell Fanatic. New paper is coming soon. It is so awesome I can hardly contain myself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I’m looking forward to it!
Yes, I am too. Don't forget I'm another Bell Fanatic, that makes two of us.

Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:49 am
by Joy Christian
jreed wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:15 am
gill1109 wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:13 pm
FrediFizzx wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:52 am @gill1109 LOL! Is this off-topic? Well maybe it's not since you are the only non-coward Bell Fanatic. New paper is coming soon. It is so awesome I can hardly contain myself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I’m looking forward to it!
Yes, I am too. Don't forget I'm another Bell Fanatic, that makes two of us.
As if there is something to be proud of in being a "Bell Fanatic." The discredited theorem of Bell has been dead and buried for at least fourteen years. :)

The death of Bell's theorem has also been consolidated in the following set of publications, which Richard D. Gill has failed miserably to have retracted:

(1) International Journal of Theoretical Physics: https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 014-2412-2

(2) Royal Society Open Science: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... sos.180526

(3) IEEE Access: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8836453

(4) IEEE Access: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9226414

(5) IEEE Access: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9418997

Also worth mentioning is the invited presentation of my work at the conference in honor of the father of Geometric Algebra, Prof. David Hestenes:

(1) Slides of My Invited Talk at the GA Conference in Honor of Prof. David Hestenes: http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.21753.39529.

If anyone wants to understand the silly blunder made by Bell in his so-called theorem, then it is explained here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.02876.pdf.
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Re: Are the Bell Fanatics Cowards?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:51 am
by FrediFizzx
jreed wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:15 am
gill1109 wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:13 pm
FrediFizzx wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:52 am @gill1109 LOL! Is this off-topic? Well maybe it's not since you are the only non-coward Bell Fanatic. New paper is coming soon. It is so awesome I can hardly contain myself. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I’m looking forward to it!
Yes, I am too. Don't forget I'm another Bell Fanatic, that makes two of us.
Yes, and I am so glad you decided not to be a coward and came back. Welcome back. Well, it's going to be a bit longer for the new paper. We just discovered a major change we have to make. And it is nothing to do with what you all are complaining about but it IS something you all could have caught and complained about legitimately. :D
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