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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:55 pm
by FrediFizzx
Here is an updated CHSH version. The average of 10 runs of 20,000 trials each comes out to be,
CHSH = 2.80553!
That is pretty dang close to the max! And no further tweaking. Might be able to get even closer.
Cloud File.
https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/fredif ... H-forum.nb
Direct files.
sims/newCS-57-S3quat-3D-new-CHSH-forum.pdf
sims/newCS-57-S3quat-3D-new-CHSH-forum.nb
Enjoy!
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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:29 am
by gill1109
And what is the standard deviation (s.d.) of the 10 results you’ve averaged?
The standard error of your final average is s.d./sqrt(10)
Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:49 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:29 am
And what is the standard deviation (s.d.) of the 10 results you’ve averaged?
The standard error of your final average is s.d./sqrt(10)
Don't care about it. You calculate it since you have Mathematica.
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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:07 am
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:49 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:29 am
And what is the standard deviation (s.d.) of the 10 results you’ve averaged?
The standard error of your final average is s.d./sqrt(10)
Don't care about it. You calculate it since you have Mathematica.
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Tell me the 10 separate results, and I’ll do it for you. That should be very easy for you.
Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:10 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:07 am
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:49 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:29 am
And what is the standard deviation (s.d.) of the 10 results you’ve averaged?
The standard error of your final average is s.d./sqrt(10)
Don't care about it. You calculate it since you have Mathematica.
Tell me the 10 separate results, and I’ll do it for you. That should be very easy for you.
They are at the end of the notebook file or PDF file which I guess you haven't even looked at.
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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:53 pm
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:10 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:07 am
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:49 am
Don't care about it. You calculate it since you have Mathematica.
Tell me the 10 separate results, and I’ll do it for you. That should be very easy for you.
They are at the end of the notebook file or PDF file which I guess you haven't even looked at.
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Yeah, I’m very lazy
Code: Select all
x <- c(2.778545010598531, 2.8292076083106292, 2.8335071953985898, 2.8260985341778437, 2.8254732463559082,
2.8043705677375788, 2.800333098716658, 2.7828705966805343, 2.7640294414490336, 2.8108636228331267)
mean(x)
Sqrt(var(x))
sqrt(var(x)/10)
Code: Select all
[1] 2.80553
[1] 0.02400205
[1] 0.007590114
OK, so your value of CHSH is 2.806 +/- 0.008
An approx 95% confidence interval is 2.806 +/- 2 x 0.008
2 sqrt 2, your target, is 2.828…
The target is outside the approx 95% confidence interval. That’s not so good.
Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:28 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:53 pm
OK, so your value of CHSH is 2.806 +/- 0.008
An approx 95% confidence interval is 2.806 +/- 2 x 0.008
2 sqrt 2, your target, is 2.828…
The target is outside the approx 95% confidence interval. That’s not so good.
Does this look like a face that cares?
It's good enough to destroy your junk math theory.
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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:15 am
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:28 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:53 pm
OK, so your value of CHSH is 2.806 +/- 0.008
An approx 95% confidence interval is 2.806 +/- 2 x 0.008
2 sqrt 2, your target, is 2.828…
The target is outside the approx 95% confidence interval. That’s not so good.
Does this look like a face that cares?
It's good enough to destroy your junk math theory.
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You mean, my elegant math theory which you don’t understand. Which has almost nothing to do with your computer simulations. Which have nothing to do with physics.
Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:22 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:15 am
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:28 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:53 pm
OK, so your value of CHSH is 2.806 +/- 0.008
An approx 95% confidence interval is 2.806 +/- 2 x 0.008
2 sqrt 2, your target, is 2.828…
The target is outside the approx 95% confidence interval. That’s not so good.
Does this look like a face that cares?
It's good enough to destroy your junk math theory.
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You mean, my elegant math theory which you don’t understand. Which has almost nothing to do with your computer simulations. Which have nothing to do with physics.
Another quadruple LOL!
Dream on! I understand your junk math theory perfectly well. Ask me a question about it.
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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:57 pm
by FrediFizzx
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:22 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:15 am
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:28 am
Does this look like a face that cares?
It's good enough to destroy your junk math theory.
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You mean, my elegant math theory which you don’t understand. Which has almost nothing to do with your computer simulations. Which have nothing to do with physics.
Another quadruple LOL!
Dream on! I understand your junk math theory perfectly well. Ask me a question about it.
No questions so I guess that settles it. Gill's math theory is junk math.
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Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:30 am
by gill1109
Yes, in Fred-World all is settled.
Meanwhile there are interesting discussions going on at
https://gill1109.com/2022/01/02/the-big-bell-bet/
Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:52 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:30 am
Yes, in Fred-World all is settled. ...
Well, you had a chance to ask me a question about your math theory but didn't and still haven't. Do you even remember what your math theory is?
Typical Bell fanatic misdirection by spewing nonsense on top of nonsense.
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Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:48 am
by Guest
Just a bunch of egotists butting heads like rutting stags. Nobody cares.
Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:30 am
by FrediFizzx
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:48 am
Just a bunch of egotists butting heads like rutting stags. Nobody cares.
LOL!
Looks like local made it to the new forum.
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Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:33 am
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:52 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:30 am
Yes, in Fred-World all is settled. ...
Well, you had a chance to ask me a question about your math theory but didn't and still haven't. Do you even remember what your math theory is?
Typical Bell fanatic misdirection by spewing nonsense on top of nonsense.
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Fred, I think that your picture of “Gill’s math theory” is something of your very own imagining. Please explain it to us. Similarly, your imagined “Bell’s junk physics theory”.
Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:39 am
by gill1109
Guest wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:48 am
Just a bunch of egotists butting heads like rutting stags. Nobody cares.
Ha, ha! Seems you care enough to make insulting ad hominem comments about the discussion there. Are you saying that Bryan Sanctuary’s theory (which he’s on the verge of publishing) will be garbage? He argues against quantum non-locality. Support him, encourage him!
Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:53 am
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:33 am
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:52 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:30 am
Yes, in Fred-World all is settled. ...
Well, you had a chance to ask me a question about your math theory but didn't and still haven't. Do you even remember what your math theory is?
Typical Bell fanatic misdirection by spewing nonsense on top of nonsense.
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Fred, I think that your picture of “Gill’s math theory” is something of your very own imagining. Please explain it to us. Similarly, your imagined “Bell’s junk physics theory”.
Yep, lookie there. He's forgotten his own junk math theory and can't even ask me a question about it.
Go ahead and ask me a question about Bell's junk physics theory then.
And stop with the typical misdirection!
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Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:27 pm
by FrediFizzx
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:53 am
gill1109 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:33 am
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:52 am
Well, you had a chance to ask me a question about your math theory but didn't and still haven't. Do you even remember what your math theory is?
Typical Bell fanatic misdirection by spewing nonsense on top of nonsense.
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Fred, I think that your picture of “Gill’s math theory” is something of your very own imagining. Please explain it to us. Similarly, your imagined “Bell’s junk physics theory”.
Yep, lookie there. He's forgotten his own junk math theory and can't even ask me a question about it.
Go ahead and ask me a question about Bell's junk physics theory then.
And stop with the typical misdirection!
Yep, it's hard to ask a valid question about junk math or junk physics.
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Re: Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:20 am
by FrediFizzx
@gill1109 More typical misdirection so deleted your post. Ask a question about something specific in the junk theories. You can explain the more broader questions you asked if you wish. I don't have time for this nonsense actually. Working on the GRF essay.
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Re: Coming Soon!
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:15 am
by FrediFizzx
Something interesting that I just discovered about this simulation. For a million trials the trial numbers for events on the A side that have spinorial sign changes don't match any of the trial numbers on the B side for spinorial sign changes. Zero! Nada! That means the spinorial sign changes are completely independent between A and B so definitely 100 percent local. And there is less than 3.5 percent of them on each side to go from straight lines to close to the negative cosine curve! Fantastic!
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