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Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:04 pm
by FrediFizzx
I was browsing though some old posts on the old forum and came across this Gisin & Gisin model that John Reed did a simulation for about 7 or 8 years ago. Well, I fixed it up a bit and it actually works fairly well. 10,000 trials at 1 degree resolution. I think it uses the detection loophole but can't quite figure it out.
Cloud File.
https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/fredif ... inReed3.nb
Direct Files.
sims/GisinReed3.pdf
sims/GisinReed3.nb
You can see on the third page of the PDF that the A and B outcomes look to be the same. Can't quite figure out how that could be either. ???
Anyways, Enjoy!
Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:27 pm
by FrediFizzx
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:04 pm
I was browsing though some old posts on the old forum and came across this Gisin & Gisin model that John Reed did a simulation for about 7 or 8 years ago. Well, I fixed it up a bit and it actually works fairly well. 10,000 trials at 1 degree resolution. I think it uses the detection loophole but can't quite figure it out.
Cloud File.
https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/fredif ... inReed3.nb
Direct Files.
sims/GisinReed3.pdf
sims/GisinReed3.nb
You can see on the third page of the PDF that the A and B outcomes look to be the same. Can't quite figure out how that could be either. ???
Actually A and B should be opposite of each other because,
There should be a minus sign like above on either one because lambda is the singlet vector and should be opposite signed on either side.
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Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:18 am
by FrediFizzx
Oops! This simulation is no good. It doesn't work with random angles.

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Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm
by gill1109
Yep, it uses the detection loophole, and avoids a number of drawbacks of the Pearl model.
https://rpubs.com/gill1109/Gisin2opt
By the way, my RSOS paper is now accepted and in production. It was held up by one referee. He believes that Bell's theorem is both true and not true and that this is the case because the ZFC axioms of mathematics are inconsistent.
Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 am
by FrediFizzx
It doesn't work with random angles so it is not even a model. It's just more junk.
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Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:21 pm
by gill1109
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 am
It doesn't work with random angles so it is not even a model. It's just more junk.
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You mean you don’t understand it, and therefore you call it junk.
It does work with random angles. Alice and Bob can use any angles as settings they like. Also random angles.
Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:21 pm
by FrediFizzx
gill1109 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 6:21 pm
FrediFizzx wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:21 am
It doesn't work with random angles so it is not even a model. It's just more junk.
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You mean you don’t understand it, and therefore you call it junk.
It does work with random angles. Alice and Bob can use any angles as settings they like. Also random angles.
Let's see your R code and graph for random angles.
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Re: Gisin & Gisin Model
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:57 am
by Joy Christian
gill1109 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:41 pm
By the way, my RSOS paper is now accepted and in production.
Yeah, right. I will believe it when I see it on the
RSOS website. The paper was submitted 16 months ago, in October 2020, but it is still "in production."
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